MIND DRAMA: The Science of Rumination and How to Outwit Your Inner Defeatist

MIND DRAMA: The Science of Rumination and How to Outwit Your Inner Defeatist

July 20, 2026 · 16 min

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The episode discusses rumination and features science writer Donna Jackson Nakazawa, who provides insights on overcoming negative thought patterns.

Are you the kind of person who might replay a simple conversation days in a row…dissecting a comment that probably meant nothing, into something terrible, terrifying, or worse?  That’s called rumination. You’re not alone, and there’s a way to break the spiral. My guest is science writer Donna Jackson Nakazawa, author of:   MIND DRAMA: The Science of Rumination and How to Outwit Your Inner Defeatist . Practical, personal, and grounded in science, MIND DRAMA is for anyone who's ever lost hours to their own thoughts.  Donna Jackson Nakazawa is the author of five books that explore the intersection of neuroscience, stress, and emotion, including Girls on the Brink, The Angel and the Assassin, Childhood Disrupted. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Books & works: MIND DRAMA: The Science of Rumination and How to Outwit Your Inner Defeatist, Girls on the Brink, The Angel and the Assassin, Childhood Disrupted

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