How Brands Stay Visible When AI Decides | Profound CEO James Cadwallader

How Brands Stay Visible When AI Decides | Profound CEO James Cadwallader

From Grit by Kleiner Perkins

December 22, 2025 · 50 min · Episode 274

About this episode

James Cadwallader discusses how brands can maintain visibility in an AI-driven landscape.

What happens when AI becomes your most influential referrer? As consumers turn to ChatGPT for answers, James Cadwallader and his team at Profound help brands like Eight Sleep and MongoDB gain visibility and leverage inside AI models. On this episode of Grit, he explains why brand narrative has shifted away from content, and why Profound is scaling globally ahead of traditional SaaS timelines. Guest: James Cadwallader, co-founder and CEO of Profound and Ilya Fushman, partner at Kleiner Perkins Connect with James Cadwallader X: https://x.com/thejamescad?lang=en LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jsca/ ​ Connect with Ilya Fushman X: https://x.com/ilyaf LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ilyafushman/ Connect with Joubin X: https://x.com/Joubinmir LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joubin-mirzadegan-66186854/ Email: grit@kleinerperkins.com Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kpgrit Follow on X: https://x.com/KPGrit ​Learn more about Kleiner Perkins: https://www.kleinerperkins.com/

People in this episode

Guest: James Cadwallader

Topics covered

  • AI
  • brand visibility
  • consumer behavior
  • SaaS
  • marketing strategy

Keywords

  • AI
  • brand narrative
  • visibility
  • SaaS
  • marketing

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Profound, Eight Sleep, MongoDB

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