About this episode

Eric Topol interviews Sebastian Mallaby about his book 'THE INFINITY MACHINE' and the evolution of AI over the past 15 years.

This is one of my favorite books over recent years. Sebastian Mallaby is the Paul A. Cocker Senior Fellow for International Economics at the Council of Foreign Relations and author of 6 bestselling books. THE INFINITY MACHINE tells the story of AI’s progress over the past 15 years largely, but not exclusively, from Demis Hassabis as the protagonist and leader of DeepMind’, with its 2010 mission statement to achieve superintelligence by 2030. It’s a rich, informative, page turner. What We Discussed: —What is an Infinity Machine? —Influence of Claude Shannon’s Information Theory and Douglas Hofstadter’s Pulitzer Prize winning book Gödel, Escher, Bach — Origin of DeepMind in 2010. Prescient. Charter, business plan, included use of agents. How Demis Hassabis was made for the mission! —Contrasts with Sam Altman and the other AI leaders, the Oligopoly (cover of The Economist this week). For example, Nature papers vs white papers on company websites. —In March 2016, t he same day when DeepMind’s AlphaGo beat Lee Sedol , Hassabis says it’s time to do protein folding (later known as AlphaFold). —Symbolic AI (historic, deductive, rule-based) vs Deep Learning (Toronto tribe) and…

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