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Karen Gombault discusses the difference between accountability and ownership in high-performing teams with leadership researcher Patrick Veroneau.

Organizations often respond to performance challenges by adding more accountability: additional metrics, more reporting, and closer monitoring. Yet in many cases, these efforts do not solve the underlying problem. In this episode of Grounded and Aligned™, Karen speaks with leadership researcher and author Patrick Veroneau about the difference between accountability and ownership in high-performing teams. Drawing on two decades of work with leaders and teams across industries, Patrick explains why many organizations struggle with engagement even while emphasizing accountability. The conversation explores a structural pattern Patrick has observed repeatedly. Teams that struggle, teams that perform at an average level, and teams that consistently excel all engage in three behaviors: they support each other, celebrate each other, and challenge each other. The difference lies in the sequence. Great teams begin with support. When people trust that others have their backs, challenge becomes constructive rather than defensive, and accountability shifts from external pressure to internal ownership. For leaders, the implication is significant. Engagement, ownership, and performance are not…

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Host: Karen Gombault

Guest: Patrick Veroneau

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