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Mat and Magrey discuss the challenges of acknowledging privilege and the ongoing journey of faith and nation.

This week Mat and Magrey wrestle with some of the hardest questions in our shared story. They talk about Frederick Douglass' challenge to the church, what it means to acknowledge privilege and hear experiences different from our own, and why both faith and our nation are always works in progress. Together they explore a hopeful idea at the heart of the gospel: our calling isn't to go back to some perfect past, but to keep becoming more perfect in love and move toward the future God is invitin...

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