[The Great Dangerous Books Podcast] Jacques Vallée's 'Messengers of Deception' with Kelly Chase

About this episode

The episode features a discussion on Jacques Vallée's 'Messengers of Deception' and its implications on the UFO phenomenon with guest Kelly Chase.

Fan favorite, James Madden, has a brand new project with his brilliant co-host Jared Zimmerer called The Great Dangerous Books Podcast. Check out this episode to catch the vibe of the show, and if you like what you hear, be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode. Get Messengers of Deception by Jacques Vallée Subscribe to The Great Dangerous Books Podcast Spotify Apple Podcasts YouTube In this episode, Jim and Jared discuss the complexities of the UFO phenomenon with special guest Kelly Chase, focusing on Jacques Vallee's influential work 'Messengers of Deception.' They explore themes of manipulation, the unconscious, and the power of images in shaping belief systems. The conversation delves into the psychological impact of UFO experiences, the dangers of ontological shock, and the need for critical thinking in the field of ufology. Throughout, they emphasize the importance of self-awareness and the challenges of integrating extraordinary experiences into one's worldview. TIMESTAMPS 01:28 Introducing Kelly Chase and Her Work 03:09 Exploring Jacques Vallee's 'Messengers of Deception' 05:17 Vallee's Perspective on UFOs and Manipulation 09:47 The Reliability of Jacques Vallee…

People in this episode

Guest: Kelly Chase

Topics covered

• UFO phenomenon
• manipulation
• psychological impact
• ontological shock
• critical thinking
• belief systems

Keywords

• UFOs
• Jacques Vallée
• Messengers of Deception
• manipulation
• belief systems
• ontological shock
• critical thinking

Mentioned in this episode

Books & works: Messengers of Deception

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