
Stop Performing Your Life: Escaping the Shame Triangle with Jessica Fern & David Cooley
From inside OUT: Navigating the Mental, Emotional & Spiritual with Jojo by Jojo Cottle
June 10, 2026 · 37 min · Episode 74
About this episode
Jojo Cottle discusses the Shame Triangle with trauma therapists Jessica Fern and David Cooley, exploring patterns of self-criticism and shame.
You've done the therapy. Read the books. Cried it out at a retreat. So why does that critical voice in your head keep winning? This week, trauma therapist Jessica Fern (bestselling author of Polysecure) and David Cooley (creator of Restorative Relationship Conversations) join me to expose the Shame Triangle: the hidden pattern keeping you stuck in self criticism, shame, and escape. And here's the wild part. They've been married, divorced, and now coparent and write books together. They don't ...
People in this episode
Host: Jojo Cottle
Guests: Jessica Fern, David Cooley
Topics covered
- shame
- self criticism
- trauma therapy
- co-parenting
- relationships
Keywords
- Shame Triangle
- self criticism
- trauma therapy
- co-parenting
- relationships
- Jessica Fern
- David Cooley
Mentioned in this episode
Books & works: Polysecure
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