A Bitcoin Evangelist Tries to Convert Me

A Bitcoin Evangelist Tries to Convert Me

April 23, 2026 · 1h 6m

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Ross Douthat interviews bitcoin evangelist Anthony Pompliano about the purpose of cryptocurrency and its volatility.

One question has haunted my investment strategy for years: What is cryptocurrency actually for? It feels as though the vibes are constantly shifting — one day it’s the dollar’s successor, and the next it’s little more than a meme. My guest this week is bitcoin evangelist Anthony Pompliano, the chief executive of ProCap Financial. We get into whether crypto is a bet against the American empire and whether its volatility is actually a strength.

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