White Identity Is Galvanizing the Right

White Identity Is Galvanizing the Right

March 19, 2026 · 1h 3m

About this episode

The episode discusses the obsession with anti-white discrimination among the American right, featuring guest Jeremy Carl.

The idea that white people — and white men in particular — face discrimination has become something of an obsession on the American right. It’s a view that my guest this week shares. Jeremy Carl was nominated to a State Department post by the Trump administration, which sparked a lot of controversy. Carl is the author of “The Unprotected Class,” in which he makes the case that white Americans are in danger of becoming “second-class citizens.” I wanted to know what he thinks constitutes anti-white discrimination and whether focusing on it inevitably leads to white nationalism. After we taped this interview, Carl withdrew his nomination, acknowledging that he lacked enough support to be confirmed.

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