Keep Going: Follow the fun, even when it costs you everything

Keep Going: Follow the fun, even when it costs you everything

April 13, 2026 · 21 min

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Ela Thier shares her journey of creating opportunities in filmmaking despite initial failures.

I talked to Ela Thier this week on Keep Going, and she said something early on that told me exactly where the conversation was headed. Filmmakers, she said, know a lot about failure. That sounded like a joke, but not really. It was more like a basic fact of the trade. Thier is a writer, director, and the founding director of the Independent Film School , which now has something like 65,000 members. The strange part is how it began. She could not get a job. She applied for a dog-walking job and did not get that either. So she did what a lot of people do when the normal routes close up. She made her own opening. She announced that she was starting a screenwriting class. Two people signed up. One of them wanted a discount. So she made the first class free, twenty people showed up, eight stayed for the full course, and the thing took on a life of its own. That story sounds neat when you tell it fast, but what I liked about her version is that she does not pretend she had some polished strategy from the start. She was trying things. She was paying attention. She was making changes. Now people would call it a lead magnet and act like it was all part of a system, but back then it was…

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