Queers are meant to have kids

Queers are meant to have kids

From Ladies, We Need To Talk by ABC Australia

March 16, 2026 · 21 min

About this episode

Narelda Jacobs and Karina Natt discuss their journey to parenthood as a queer couple and the societal backlash they faced.

Narelda Jacobs and Karina Natt announced their pregnancy online. Then came the trolls. The pair were over the moon about starting their rainbow family but were pulled back down to earth by the haters who said that they had "no right" to have children as a gay couple. Their response was to write and release a satirical book for adults called 'If Queers weren't meant to have kids.' The book is a celebration of the queer community and raising a child with your chosen family. The couple sat down with Yumi Stynes for a joyful conversation about the mechanics of conceiving using the turkey baster method and raising a child with three loving parents. Narelda Jacobs is a Whadjuk Noongar journalist and presenter on Network 10 and Karina Natt is a former lawyer and journalist who works in media and communications. This episode will answer questions like: Who are Narelda Jacobs and Karina Natt? How do you ask someone to have a baby with you? How do you get pregnant in a same sex relationship? What is the turkey baster method? Can you choose your family? What to listen to next: Building a village means showing up even when it feels hard, says Esther Perel How swapping a husband for a wife…

People in this episode

Host: Yumi Stynes

Guests: Narelda Jacobs, Karina Natt

Topics covered

  • queer families
  • parenting
  • same-sex relationships
  • pregnancy
  • satire
  • community

Keywords

  • queer parenting
  • turkey baster method
  • rainbow family
  • trolling
  • same-sex conception

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Network 10

Books & works: If Queers weren't meant to have kids

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