Jack Dorsey: Every Company Can Now Be a Mini-AGI
From Long Strange Trip: CEO to CEO with Brian Halligan by Sequoia Capital
April 2, 2026 · 1h 4m
About this episode
Jack Dorsey discusses the obsolescence of traditional corporate hierarchies and his vision for an AI-centered organizational structure.
Jack Dorsey (Block CEO) and Roelof Botha (Sequoia partner and Block board member) join to discuss a bold claim they wrote about recently: the traditional corporate hierarchy isn't just inefficient — it's obsolete. Jack made one of the toughest calls in recent business history: cutting 40% of his workforce and rebuilding the company from the ground up around what he calls an AI "intelligence layer." We get into how that conversation went down, the math they used to land on a number, and why he's convinced that acting from a position of strength beats reacting from one of weakness. Jack breaks down his vision for simplifying into just three roles, and what it means to replace a pyramid org chart with a circle — AI at the center, and people at the edge. Roelof, who helped think through the restructuring, shares his perspective on how AI-native startups are building differently, and what CEO qualities are timeless. I've eliminated org charts before. I know how hard this is. But Jack is doing something I never had the tools to pull off. If you're a founder wondering whether your hierarchy is working for you or against you, this one will make you uncomfortable in the best way.
People in this episode
Guests: Jack Dorsey, Roelof Botha
Topics covered
- corporate hierarchy
- AI intelligence layer
- workforce restructuring
- CEO qualities
- AI-native startups
Keywords
- corporate hierarchy
- AI
- workforce
- restructuring
- CEO
- startups
- intelligence layer
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Block, Sequoia Capital
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