#469 — Escaping an Anti-Human Future

#469 — Escaping an Anti-Human Future

From Making Sense with Sam Harris by Sam Harris

April 10, 2026 · 1h 49m

About this episode

Sam Harris discusses the dangers of AI and its implications with Tristan Harris.

Sam Harris speaks with Tristan Harris about the dangers of AI and the race to build it. They discuss the new documentary The AI Doc: Or How I Became an Apocaloptimist , the lessons of The Social Dilemma , the arms race dynamics between AI labs, the "intelligence curse" and its implications for human political power, the psychology of tech CEOs indifferent to extinction risk, the possibilities of US-China coordination on AI safety, and other topics. If the Making Sense podcast logo in your player is BLACK, you can SUBSCRIBE to gain access to all full-length episodes at samharris.org/subscribe .

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Host: Sam Harris

Guest: Tristan Harris

Topics covered

  • AI dangers
  • documentary discussion
  • tech ethics
  • US-China coordination
  • political power
  • extinction risk

Keywords

  • AI
  • extinction risk
  • tech CEOs
  • political power
  • arms race
  • documentary
  • social media

Mentioned in this episode

Books & works: The AI Doc: Or How I Became an Apocaloptimist, The Social Dilemma

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