#471 — The End of History, Revisited
From Making Sense with Sam Harris by Sam Harris
April 16, 2026 · 19 min
About this episode
Sam Harris speaks with Francis Fukuyama about liberal democracy, American politics, and global order.
Sam Harris speaks with Francis Fukuyama about liberal democracy, American politics, and global order. They discuss the misunderstood thesis of "The End of History," how conservatism has mutated into ethno-nationalism, the self-defeating extremes of both identity politics and neoliberalism, the damage of Trump's second term, the war in Iran, the future of Israel, antisemitism on the left and right, and other topics. If the Making Sense podcast logo in your player is BLACK, you can SUBSCRIBE to gain access to all full-length episodes at samharris.org/subscribe .
People in this episode
Host: Sam Harris
Guest: Francis Fukuyama
Topics covered
- liberal democracy
- American politics
- global order
- ethno-nationalism
- identity politics
- neoliberalism
- antisemitism
Keywords
- The End of History
- conservatism
- identity politics
- Trump
- Iran
- Israel
- antisemitism
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: American politics, liberal democracy, neoliberalism, Trump
Places: Iran, Israel
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