What the labor market isn’t telling you—yet

What the labor market isn’t telling you—yet

June 25, 2025 · 26 min

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Svenja Gudell joins McKinsey talent leaders to discuss the uncertainties in the labor market amid the rise of AI and other trends.

AI is fast transforming work as we’ve known it—and the latest data on jobs doesn’t always reflect the changes underway. “One word sums it up best: ‘uncertainty,’” says Svenja Gudell, chief economist of global employment platform Indeed. In this episode of McKinsey Talks Talent, Svenja joins McKinsey talent leaders Brooke Weddle and Bryan Hancock , along with Global Editorial Director Lucia Rahilly, to help leaders make sense of the current collision of labor market trends: generative AI, agentic AI, an aging workforce, shifting priorities, and more. See www.mckinsey.com/privacy-policy for privacy information

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