Ep. 284 – devon and nico hase
From Metta Hour with Sharon Salzberg by Be Here Now Network
April 14, 2026 · 1h 7m · Episode 284
About this episode
devon and nico hase discuss their new book on relationships and mindfulness with Sharon Salzberg.
For episode 284, devon and nico hase return to the Metta Hour to speak with Sharon about their new book, This Messy, Gorgeous Love: A Buddhist Guide to Lasting Partnership . devon and nico serve as guiding teachers of the online dharma community Refuge of Belonging. They teach at the Insight Meditation Society, Spirit Rock, and other centers, offer online and in-person retreats, and speak with students in one-on-one sessions. Their first book How Not to Be a Hot Mess , came out in 2020 and their 2026 release, This Messy, Gorgeous Love , is now available in paperback and audiobook formats. This is devon and nico’s second appearance on the Metta Hour. In this conversation, devon, nico and Sharon speak about: The motivation for the new book After the “happily ever after” Approaching relationship as practice The healing of deep listening Common myths of relationships Buddhist personality types Dukkha (suffering) in a relationship Impermanence informing connection Forgiveness practice Different conflict styles Learning how to repair after rupture Making room for play and joy Supporting each other’s joy devon & nico's three-year retreat This episode closes with a guided…
People in this episode
Host: Sharon Salzberg
Guests: devon hase, nico hase
Topics covered
- Buddhism
- relationships
- mindfulness
- communication
- forgiveness
- personal growth
Keywords
- Buddhism
- relationships
- mindfulness
- forgiveness
- communication
- personal growth
- Dukkha
- impermanence
- conflict styles
- joy
Mentioned in this episode
Books & works: This Messy, Gorgeous Love: A Buddhist Guide to Lasting Partnership, How Not to Be a Hot Mess
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