Negotiating Beyond the Rate — A Conversation with Kevin Barron on Payer Strategy, AI, and Playing the Long Game
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The episode features a discussion on payer contracting and the impact of AI on contract review workflows with Kevin Barron.
On this episode of the MGMA Insights Podcast Network , host and senior editor Daniel Williams sits down with Kevin Barron , vice president of payer relations at University Health in San Antonio. The conversation explores the realities of payer contracting, from aligning internal priorities to navigating underpayments and denials, along with how integrated contracting and revenue cycle strategies can drive better outcomes. Barron also shares how AI is reshaping contract review workflows and why relationships — not just numbers — define success at the negotiating table ... with a few fun detours into Spurs basketball and Disney along the way. Key Takeaways: Rates aren’t the whole story — While reimbursement rates matter, contract language, policies, and operational requirements often have a greater long-term financial impact. Consistency across stakeholders is critical — Successful negotiations begin with internal alignment across finance, physicians, and operations on what truly matters. Live the contract after signing — Negotiations may take months, but organizations must manage and monitor performance for years afterward. An integrated approach strengthens results — Combining…
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