Episode 760: Rethinking Force Design on the Midrats Podcast with General Anthony Zinni, USMC (Ret.)

Episode 760: Rethinking Force Design on the Midrats Podcast with General Anthony Zinni, USMC (Ret.)

June 14, 2026 · 59 min

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Retired General Anthony Zinni discusses the evolution of Marine Corps force design and its strategic implications.

It has been a bit more than six years since then Commandant of the Marine Corps, General David Berger, USMC, initiated what became known as Force Design 2030 (now just known as Force Design ). What followed was a controversial change to the structure of the United States Marine Corps intended to address the challenge posed by the People's Republic of China in the western Pacific. Now more than halfway to the original 2030 target, and informed by events from Ukraine and Southwest Asia since 2020, both long-standing critics of the design and other voices are readdressing the changes—and the critique—to see if it remains the right path. Joining the Midrats Podcast is General Anthony Zinni, USMC (Ret.). Summary In this episode, retired General Anthony Zinny discusses the evolution of Marine Corps force design, its strategic implications, and the importance of a flexible, well-analyzed approach to military modernization. Show Links General Anthony Zinni, USMC (Ret.) full bio Force Design 2030 Marine leaders drop ‘2030’ from name of ambitious overhaul plan USMC Force Design Update from 2023 The Marines Must Think Bigger Than Small Units , Real Clear Defense, December 09, 2025, Anthony…

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Organizations: United States Marine Corps, People's Republic of China, Real Clear Defense, Washington Times, CSIS

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