#57: You Can’t Declare “Safe” | Becoming Safe(r) feat. BrianJames McMahon

#57: You Can’t Declare “Safe” | Becoming Safe(r) feat. BrianJames McMahon

May 1, 2026 · 31 min · Season 5 · Episode 57

About this episode

The episode explores the complexities of creating safe spaces in pastoral relationships.

We want to be safe people. We might think that we are safe people, and oftentimes we do become very safe for people. But pastoring is not a safe experience. In this episode we kick off our first Brave Conversations Episode in collaboration with Church Well Co, and BrianJames McMahon. Together we unpack the truth that just because we say “this is a safe space” within relationship, it does not necessarily mean others automatically feel safe. Let's discover what the journey to “Becoming Safe(r)”...

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