
#57: You Can’t Declare “Safe” | Becoming Safe(r) feat. BrianJames McMahon
From Ministry Without Hating It by Chad Garrison & Brenton Hill
May 1, 2026 · 31 min · Season 5 · Episode 57
About this episode
The episode explores the complexities of creating safe spaces in pastoral relationships.
We want to be safe people. We might think that we are safe people, and oftentimes we do become very safe for people. But pastoring is not a safe experience. In this episode we kick off our first Brave Conversations Episode in collaboration with Church Well Co, and BrianJames McMahon. Together we unpack the truth that just because we say “this is a safe space” within relationship, it does not necessarily mean others automatically feel safe. Let's discover what the journey to “Becoming Safe(r)”...
People in this episode
Hosts: Chad Garrison, Brenton Hill
Guest: BrianJames McMahon
Topics covered
- safety
- pastoring
- relationships
- Brave Conversations
- emotional safety
Keywords
- safe space
- pastoring
- Brave Conversations
- emotional safety
- Church Well Co
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Church Well Co
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