From Lean Startup to Incorruptible | Eric Ries [EP. 316]

About this episode

Pete Townsend discusses with Eric Ries the structural forces that lead to corporate corruption and how founders can protect their companies.

Pete Townsend is joined by Eric Ries, author of the New York Times bestseller The Lean Startup and founder of the Long-Term Stock Exchange, for a conversation about the invisible structural forces that corrupt even the most mission-driven companies, and what founders can do about it before it's too late. Eric's new book, Incorruptible: Why Good Companies Go Bad and How Great Companies Stay Great, is out now. Get it here: https://www.amazon.com/Incorruptible-Good-Companies-Great-Stay/dp/B0FWZZBPZB Eric spent 15 years teaching a generation how to build fast and learn faster. Incorruptible asks the harder question: how do you protect what you built from the forces that will eventually try to take it from you? In this special double-length episode, he walks through the concept of financial gravity, the structural tools that the world's most durable companies have used for over a century, and why good intentions are never enough. Topics covered:– Why corporate corruption is a structural failure, not an ethical one – What financial gravity is and why it's invisible until it's too late – The Anthropic Long-Term Benefit Trust and what it was designed to protect against – How Novo Nordisk…

People in this episode

Host: Pete Townsend

Guest: Eric Ries

Topics covered

• corporate corruption
• financial gravity
• structural tools
• mission-driven companies
• founder protection
• long-term value

Keywords

• Lean Startup
• Incorruptible
• corporate corruption
• financial gravity
• founders
• business structure
• Silicon Valley Bank

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Long-Term Stock Exchange, Novo Nordisk, Silicon Valley Bank

Books & works: The Lean Startup, Incorruptible: Why Good Companies Go Bad and How Great Companies Stay Great

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