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Naval discusses future technology and AI with three innovative founders.

Naval with three founders who are living in the future: Garry Tan (Y Combinator), Daniel Francis (Abel Police), and Farbood Nivi (A-LIST). 00:00 Guest Intros 02:35 Live in the Future 03:58 Will AI Outsmart us? 07:43 In the Anthropic Breadline 09:59 The Tech Genie Is Out 12:33 We Invested in COVID?! 14:25 Good Writing Is Novelty 18:50 Living Like It's 2028 24:32 Truth dot ai 30:18 Does China have the Weights? 35:38 Everyone has AI Anxiety 39:32 Have Your Agent Talk to My Agent 42:01 What if Open Source takes the Lead? 44:03 The Sun is Setting on Google 48:00 Ride the AGI 50:46 Will There be Startups? 54:05 Defending Taiwan 1:00:05 The California Empire 1:01:26 If the U.S. Falls 1:03:11 Universal Basic Robot 1:06:01 Humans as AI Handlers

People in this episode

Host: Naval

Guests: Garry Tan, Daniel Francis, Farbood Nivi

Topics covered

• AI
• future technology
• startups
• China
• Google
• universal basic income
• geopolitics

Keywords

• AI anxiety
• startups
• future living
• technology trends
• geopolitical issues
• universal basic robot
• Google decline

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Y Combinator, Abel Police, A-LIST, Google

Places: China, Taiwan, California, U.S.

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