The System We Never Built

The System We Never Built

From No Such Thing: Education in the Digital Age by Marc Lesser

May 27, 2026 · 50 min

About this episode

Dr. Katie Brown discusses her innovative approaches to English learning and the importance of connecting workers with high-demand skills.

Dr. Katie Brown has spent nearly three decades leveraging the science behind high-impact language instruction to create scalable, sustainable English learning solutions. As founder and chief education officer of EnGen, a Certified B Corporation, she is pioneering a personalized, career-aligned, mobile-first approach to English upskilling and is engaging cross-sector partners – Fortune 500 companies, regional employers, higher education institutions, apprenticeship programs, and government institutions – to connect workers with high-demand skills, credentials, and employment. An expert in adult learning, education technology, and instructional design, Katie has crafted numerous award-winning language courses and authored multiple technology patents to deliver high-impact language training to millions of learners. Katie holds a PhD in second language acquisition from the University of Maryland, and is a frequent speaker, author, and panel moderator. Find her work on LinkedIn. Links: https://getengen.com/team https://www.chieflearningofficer.com/profiles/katie-brown/ https://www.kenningassociates.com/katie-brown-of-engen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

People in this episode

Host: Marc Lesser

Guest: Dr. Katie Brown

Topics covered

  • language instruction
  • English learning solutions
  • adult learning
  • education technology
  • instructional design
  • career-aligned education

Keywords

  • language instruction
  • English upskilling
  • education technology
  • adult learning
  • career-aligned education

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: EnGen, Fortune 500, University of Maryland, Chief Learning Officer, Kenning Associates

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