113 - All Music, All Students: Rethinking What Belongs in the Ensemble Room, with Eric Songer

113 - All Music, All Students: Rethinking What Belongs in the Ensemble Room, with Eric Songer

May 18, 2026 · 50 min · Season 5 · Episode 113

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Theresa and Kathryn discuss with Eric Songer how to expand access to music-making in education by incorporating diverse genres and student-led initiatives.

In episode 113, Theresa and Kathryn sit down with Eric Songer, a veteran middle school music educator, to explore what it really means to move from “music for all” to “all music.” Drawing from his own unconventional path into music—sparked by pop radio and a love for popular culture—Eric shares how his teaching philosophy centers on expanding access to music-making beyond traditional ensembles. He describes how incorporating genres like rock, hip hop, bluegrass, and mariachi, along with oppor...

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