
DSP 137. Why You Shouldn’t Aim for Perfect: Building Design Systems That Deliver Business Value with Noelle Lansford
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November 11, 2025 · 45 min · Season 1 · Episode 137
About this episode
Noelle Lansford discusses the importance of balancing perfection with business needs in design systems.
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. If you’ve ever struggled to balance perfection with business reality, this episode is for you. In this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, Chris Strahl talks with Noelle Lansford, founder of Shep, about why chasing the “perfect system” often breaks more than it fixes. Drawing on her experience across startups and Fortune 5 companies, Noelle argues that design systems succeed when they serve people and the business—not when they chase architectural p...
People in this episode
Host: Chris Strahl
Guest: Noelle Lansford
Topics covered
- design systems
- business value
- perfection vs reality
- user experience
- startup culture
Keywords
- design systems
- business value
- Noelle Lansford
- Chris Strahl
- user experience
- startup
- Fortune 5
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Shep, Fortune 5, Design Systems Podcast
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