Navigating without a Map

Navigating without a Map

June 24, 2026 · 15 min · Episode 975

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Peggy Smedley interviews Jeff Ton about leadership lessons from his experiences and the Lewis and Clark expedition.

Peggy Smedley and Jeff Ton, author of Uncharted Moments, talk about his leadership background and how he learned to navigate without a map. He says he is a career technologist and most of that was in leadership positions, and the story in the book is about tracing the Lewis and Clark trail. They also discuss: · Leadership lessons from the Lewis and Clark expedition. · How leaders can navigate uncertainty—which translates to today's AI era. · The concept of pausing and listening and its importance in leadership. https://jeffreyston.com/

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