Stop Redesigning. Start Diagnosing. The CRO Method That Actually Works

Stop Redesigning. Start Diagnosing. The CRO Method That Actually Works

From Perpetual Traffic by Tier 11

May 19, 2026 · 33 min · Episode 796

About this episode

Ned MacPherson discusses effective conversion rate optimization strategies that focus on data rather than design opinions.

The conversion problem is not in your ad account. It's in the gaps between your ads, landing pages, data, and unit economics. Sign up for our free CRO audit and close the gaps today: https://www.tiereleven.com/cro If your CRO agency is leading with design opinions instead of data, you're not optimizing. You're guessing. There's a critical difference between CRO that looks smart and CRO that actually moves revenue, and most businesses have never seen the real thing. In this episode, I sit down with Ned MacPherson, the Director of CRO at Tier 11. Ned built and scaled his CRO and analytics agency to 30+ people before a successful private equity acquisition in late 2023, working with brands from early-stage DTC all the way up to Fortune 50 companies. He breaks down exactly why the industry's default CRO approach is not just ineffective but can actively hurt your conversion rate. By the end of this three-part series, you'll know what the "metric on fire" framework looks like and why checkout funnel drop-off data means completely different things depending on where it happens. You’ll also discover how improving your on-site conversion rate creates a compounding halo effect in your Meta…

People in this episode

Host: unknown

Guest: Ned MacPherson

Topics covered

  • conversion rate optimization
  • CRO strategies
  • data-driven marketing
  • funnel metrics
  • revenue growth

Keywords

  • CRO
  • conversion rate
  • ad performance
  • funnel metrics
  • revenue growth
  • data-driven
  • Meta
  • Google

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Organizations: Tier 11, Meta, Google

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