The Hard Shit You’re Avoiding is The Breakthrough

About this episode

Michael Johnson discusses the challenges HVAC business owners face and the breakthroughs they can achieve by confronting difficult issues.

Guest: Michael Johnson — Owner, AC Man Heating and Air | Founder, Sales Elite Consulting Guest Links: YouTube: Michael James Johnson HVAC Michael Johnson has run AC Man Heating and Air since 2005, 21 years of building an HVAC company the hard way, starting with phone book ads and business cards on hospital windshields before Google Ads even existed. Now he consults HVAC, plumbing, roofing, and electrical contractors through Sales Elite. The through-line of this episode: the breakthrough you're avoiding is exactly where your next level lives. Michael lays out why HVAC owners are spoiled by the four months a year when demand sells itself, why the slow season is what actually reveals whether you're a good business owner, and why taking a page from the roofing playbook (creating demand, not waiting for it) is what separates a growing HVAC company from a stuck one. He breaks down the three hard things most contractors are actively avoiding: raising prices (which is almost always a fear and identity problem, not a market problem), texting and emailing customers consistently (the "FRAP" framework: Frequency, Referrals, Average ticket, Pricing), and asking for the sale directly instead…

People in this episode

Guest: Michael Johnson

Topics covered

• business growth
• HVAC industry
• sales strategies
• contractor challenges
• pricing strategies
• customer communication

Keywords

• HVAC
• business owner
• sales
• pricing
• customer communication
• contractors
• demand creation

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: AC Man Heating and Air, Sales Elite Consulting, Google Ads, HVAC, plumbing, roofing, electrical contractors

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