Emmett Shear on Building AI That Actually Cares: Beyond Control and Steering

Emmett Shear on Building AI That Actually Cares: Beyond Control and Steering

November 20, 2025 · 1h 11m · Episode 972

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Emmett Shear discusses the complexities of AI alignment and the future of AGI development.

A16z Podcast Key Takeaways 1. Alignment is an Ongoing Process, Not a Fixed State: Alignment must be reframed as a continuous, adaptive process rather than a destination Like families constantly reknitting the social fabric The industry wrongly assumes “abstract alignment” to a singular good, when it actually requires aligning to specific, evolving values as society makes new moral discoveries about cooperation 2. Tool vs. Being: The Critical Fork in AGI Development Major: AI labs are fundamentally divided on whether they’re building tools or beings AGI, by definition, will be a being, and applying steering-control paradigms (which work for tools) to beings recreates historical mistakes with entities “like us, but different.” Non-optional steering without reciprocity is the definition of slavery; AGI requires treating systems as teammates, not instruments 3. Current LLMs Lack Coherent Self-Model, Creating Dangerous Dynamics : Today’s chatbots are “dissociative agreeable neurotics” – mirrors that reflect users to themselves without coherent goals or a theory of mind This creates narcissistic feedback loops where users fall in love with their reflections. Solution: train AIs in…

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