‘Before Psychology’ on a Bike: Through Fear, Flow, and Aliveness

‘Before Psychology’ on a Bike: Through Fear, Flow, and Aliveness

From Quality of Mind: Realising Exponential Potential. by Piers Thurston Making Change Work

October 26, 2025 · 51 min · Episode 124

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Piers Thurston shares a personal journey of a cycling challenge while exploring the principles of Quality of Mind.

This podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates “Before Psychology” — the secret source that exponentially increases peace, performance, and potential for any individual or organisation. “You Can’t Train Flow — You Can Only Stop Interrupting It” 🧭 Episode Summary In this special episode, the tables turn — Piers becomes the guest.Joined by friend and regular contributor Craig Willman, he explores what happens when the principles of Quality of Mind are taken out of the conversation room and onto the road — quite literally. After saying yes to a 750km cycling challenge from Milan to Rome, Piers explores with his years of understanding “Before Psychology,” how the mind can still weave its illusions — of fear, striving, and self-doubt. What unfolds is a personal, honest and often funny exploration of how the illusion of self, the myth of control, and the nature of flow play out in real life. If this conversation sparked something in you — whether you’re a leader, a creator, or simply someone curious about what’s before the mind — explore more at qualityofmind.biz. And if you’d like to support the Ride25 fundraising for 1MoreChild, visit the…

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Host: Piers Thurston

Guest: Craig Willman

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Organizations: 1MoreChild

Places: Milan, Rome

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