Haleen Said NO to EMI

Haleen Said NO to EMI

From Radio Detox by Heather Larson

April 25, 2026 · 1h 5m

About this episode

Heather Larson interviews Ashna and Kathleen of Haleen about their journey in the music industry and their decision to turn down a deal with BMI.

Radio Detox: Haleen on Nostr, Ivy Lumi, and Music as Vibration Heather sits down with Ashna and Kathleen of Haleen, the ambient duo first introduced to Radio Detox by Seth from Zap Cooking. Seven months on Nostr and everything changed. They talk about rebuilding their studio, mastering Ivy Lumi's new single, and why no traditional music platform has ever been designed with the artist in mind. We also getting into why they said no to a deal with BMI. In This Episode Haleen turned down a BMI deal years ago and never looked back. They sold their studio gear to survive. By the time they found Bitcoin and then Nostr, the dream was nearly over. Seven months in, they have more real connections than in all the years before combined. Ivy Lumi found them through that network. Now they are mastering her album. Heather brings her yoga teacher perspective to the conversation. ASCAP and BMI will come after a five-person yoga studio for playing music on a speaker. Fountain and Wavlake let yoga teachers pay artists directly and cut the PROs out entirely. That is the pitch she is taking to every yoga teacher she knows. Ashna played support for Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, and Whitesnake in a past…

People in this episode

Host: Heather Larson

Guests: Ashna, Kathleen

Topics covered

  • music industry
  • artist rights
  • ambient music
  • Nostr
  • BMI
  • studio rebuilding

Keywords

  • Haleen
  • BMI
  • Nostr
  • ambient music
  • Ivy Lumi
  • music rights
  • studio rebuilding

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Haleen, BMI, ASCAP, Nostr, Ivy Lumi, Fountain, Wavlake, Zap Cooking

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