About this episode

The episode discusses the Justice Department's investigation into President Trump's alleged conspiracy and the implications of recent legal developments.

This week, Scott sat down with his Lawfare colleagues Eric Columbus, Molly Roberts, and Loren Voss to talk through a few of the week’s big news stories, including: •“Meet Joe Flack.” The Justice Department’s ongoing investigation into the alleged “grand conspiracy” against President Trump in relation to the 2016 elections and their aftermath has entered a new phase this week with the appointment of Joseph diGenova, a former Reagan-era U.S. Attorney and political commentator, as counselor to the Attorney General in charge of the investigation. Meanwhile, reports indicate that the Justice Department may be preparing to bring charges against former CIA Director John Brennan, a vocal Trump critic, whom diGenova has previously called a “traitor” in interviews with Fox News, even after the career attorney previously in charge of the investigation withdrew. What should we make of diGenova’s new role in this investigation? And how seriously should we take these attempts to prosecute Brennan and others allegedly involved in the “grand conspiracy”? •“No Occupation Without Representation.” A district court officially closed out Trump v. Illinois this week, that case that ultimately led the…

People in this episode

Host: Scott

Guests: Eric Columbus, Molly Roberts, Loren Voss

Topics covered

• Trump investigation
• Justice Department
• political commentary
• national guard deployment
• legal cases
• political criticism

Keywords

• Trump
• Justice Department
• Joseph diGenova
• John Brennan
• national guard
• political commentary
• legal cases

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Organizations: Justice Department, Fox News, Trump administration, Supreme Court

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