Rethinking Design Careers in a Broken System with Jen van der Meer

About this episode

Jen van der Meer discusses her diverse career path and challenges designers to engage in systemic change beyond traditional roles.

Jen van der Meer’s career path is anything but linear—spanning comparative religion, working on Wall Street, internet startups, and design education. In this thoughtful and timely conversation, Jen shares how her liberal arts background shaped her global perspective, eventually leading her to leadership roles at Frog Design, startups, and now Parsons School of Design, where she co-directs the MFA in Transdisciplinary Design. Jen challenges designers to go beyond the narrow scope of their titles or craft. Instead of trying to “convince” other industries of design’s value, she argues that designers must step outside their professional comfort zones, learn new languages—especially finance—and see themselves as co-conspirators in systemic change. With today’s precarious job market and the erosion of traditional design roles, Jen offers a compelling vision for designers to build collective practices, join interdisciplinary communities, and find purpose in transforming complex systems like health, energy, and finance. Her advice to students and early-career professionals? Focus on a system that needs fixing and start connecting with others who care.

People in this episode

Guest: Jen van der Meer

Topics covered

• design careers
• systemic change
• interdisciplinary collaboration
• design education
• job market
• collective practices

Keywords

• design
• leadership
• liberal arts
• finance
• job market
• interdisciplinary
• systemic change

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Frog Design, Parsons School of Design, Rosenfeld Media

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