#133 Meditation Expert: Why Your Mind Won't Shut Up | Ariel Garten, Muse Co Founder

#133 Meditation Expert: Why Your Mind Won't Shut Up | Ariel Garten, Muse Co Founder

July 17, 2026 · 46 min

About this episode

Ariel Garten discusses the challenges of meditation and the neuroscience behind it.

In today's episode, we welcome back Ariel Garten, co-founder of Muse. Ariel is a neuroscientist and former psychotherapist whose brain-sensing technology is used by NASA, the Mayo Clinic, and hundreds of thousands of everyday meditators worldwide. In this conversation, we discuss why meditation feels so hard to stick with, what's actually happening in your brain during those first few weeks of practice, and how to teach even young kids to self-regulate with their breath. We also get into why...

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Host: Mike Maher

Guest: Ariel Garten

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Organizations: Muse, NASA, Mayo Clinic

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