
Complex PTSD Leads to Fawning With Ingrid Clayton
From That's So Mental by Cristina Fernandez & Ilana Cohn Sullivan
February 25, 2026 · 48 min · Season 2 · Episode 57
About this episode
Dr. Ingrid Clayton discusses her experience with complex PTSD and the concept of fawning in a conversation with hosts Ilana and Cristina.
Psychologist and author Dr. Ingrid Clayton joins Ilana and Cristina to share how her own complex PTSD led her to write, "Fawning: Why the Need to Please Makes Us Lose Ourselves--and How to Find Our Way Back." These three delightful recovering fawners have a powerful conversation that illuminates how fawning happens and how to widen your window of tolerance, grow, and accept where you're at. The move towards "unfawning" takes work, can feel bad, but curiosity can start to get you back in contact with your own body and self. . . maybe for the first time. Also, fuck Epstein and how the women who have spoken out are being treated. We see you Pam, and we think you're a raging cunt. Shoutouts: Erin McAnoy, Michelle Villemaire, Resmaa Menakem's "My Grandmother's Hands," Endorsements: REST! Not because you're burn out but rest for rest's sake, easy STRETCHING, and CURIOSITY Click to Follow on IG: That's So Mental , Ilana Cohn Sullivan , Cristina Fernandez and guest Ingrid Clayton check out her website here: https://www.ingridclayton.com/ MORE TSM: That's So Mental FB , TikTok , TSM YouTube Email us at thatssomentalpodcast@gmail.com . Thank you to our producer and sound engineer…
People in this episode
Hosts: Ilana Cohn Sullivan, Cristina Fernandez
Guest: Ingrid Clayton
Topics covered
- Complex PTSD
- Fawning
- Mental Health
- Self-acceptance
- Curiosity
Keywords
- Complex PTSD
- Fawning
- Mental Health
- Self-acceptance
- Curiosity
- Psychology
- Rest
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Ninth Planet Audio, AbsoLutely
Books & works: Fawning: Why the Need to Please Makes Us Lose Ourselves--and How to Find Our Way Back, My Grandmother's Hands
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