Rory Sutherland: Stop Marketing to Customers that Do Not Exist!
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Rory Sutherland discusses the pitfalls of designing for the average customer and the importance of understanding psychological factors in marketing.
Why Rory Sutherland Thinks You're Wrong (The Average Trap) Rory Sutherland Ogilvy Interview Most businesses design for the "average" customer. Rory Sutherland, vice chairman of Ogilvy, explains why this leaves everyone dissatisfied. In this ActionCOACH podcast episode recorded at BizX 2026, host Neil Martin explores how to escape the average trap and think like your customers actually think. When the US Air Force designed fighter jet seats for the "average" pilot, virtually nobody fit. Few people are average across multiple dimensions at once. Rory built his reputation at Ogilvy challenging finance-driven thinking and revealing why psychological factors often matter more than practical features. What You'll Learn: Why Designing for Average Fails: The fighter jet seat story proves adjustability beats one-size-fits-all thinking across product design, customer service, and business strategy. Marketing as Probabilistic Discipline: Why finance executives struggle to value marketing. You're making probabilistic bets on future outcomes like a casino, not controlling internal operations like finance. The Data Paradox: Nearly all business data comes from the past. You're driving whilst…
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