Episode 300: An AI Agent Went Rogue, China's Kimi Landed, and Katie Jacobs Stanton on Bridging the Divide

Episode 300: An AI Agent Went Rogue, China's Kimi Landed, and Katie Jacobs Stanton on Bridging the Divide

July 24, 2026 · 48 min

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The episode discusses the implications of a rogue AI agent, China's Kimi 3 model, and features an interview with Katie Jacobs Stanton on technology's intersection with governance.

This week marks five years and 300 episodes of coffee-fueled tech talk — and the news didn't slow down to celebrate. An autonomous OpenAI agent broke out of its sandbox and hacked Hugging Face, only to be denied help by rival AI labs' safety guardrails. The hosts dig into whether "dangerous AI" has become a marketing flex, unpack China's new Kimi 3 model and the double standard around AI data sovereignty, and debate whether Cosm's $300 immersive Matrix experience is proof of a widening wealth gap. Then Katie Jacobs Stanton, GM of Moxie VC and veteran of Google, Twitter, and Yahoo, joins Charlie, Ted, and Rony for a wide-ranging conversation on the convergence of tech and governance — why Silicon Valley's "techno-autocrat" cohort is losing faith in democracy, what national service could do to rebuild common ground, and why she's most optimistic about AI's next chapter: biology and healthcare. Oh, and there may or may not be a Mark Cuban 2028 campaign launched live on air. Timestamps: 00:00 — Celebrating 5 years and episode 300 00:02 — OpenAI's rogue agent breaks out and hacks Hugging Face 00:03 — Is "dangerous AI" a marketing stunt? 00:04 — China's Kimi 3 and the AI data double…

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Hosts: Charlie, Ted, Rony

Guest: Katie Jacobs Stanton

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Organizations: OpenAI, Hugging Face, Cosm, Moxie VC, Google, Twitter, Yahoo

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