A Map for Finding Direction and Purpose in Life (Again and Again)

About this episode

Jim Collins discusses the cyclical nature of life and how to find direction and purpose through periods of disorientation.

While we often think of life as linear, my guest’s own life, along with a decade of research, has taught him that it’s anything but. In his latest book, What to Make of a Life , Jim Collins unpacks the cyclical pattern life actually unfolds in, and how to navigate it. He explains how we all go through periods of “fog” — times of disorientation and uncertainty — at least three times: in youth, after a life-changing “cliff” event, and as we move through midlife into older age. We find our way out of these fogs by what Jim calls coming into “frame” — aligning what you're built to do with what you actually do in a way that feels enlivening and meaningful. And Jim unpacks the three elements that help you find, and re-find, this frame over the course of your life. Along the way, Jim shares case studies of these principles at work, and we explore the role of luck, the inevitability of drudgery (even in work you love), and how to keep your inner fire lit over the long haul. Resources Related to the Podcast Good to Great  by Jim Collins All Rise: The Remarkable Journey of Alan Page  by Bill McGrane Self-Renewal: The Individual and the Innovative Society  by John W. Gardner…

People in this episode

Host: The Art of Manliness

Guest: Jim Collins

Topics covered

• life direction
• purpose
• cyclical patterns
• disorientation
• meaningful work
• self-renewal

Keywords

• direction
• purpose
• fog
• frame
• life-changing events
• luck
• drudgery

Mentioned in this episode

Books & works: What to Make of a Life, Good to Great, All Rise: The Remarkable Journey of Alan Page, Self-Renewal: The Individual and the Innovative Society, Sunday Firesides: You Never Know How Many Chapters Are Still to Come, Sunday Firesides: Do the Right Thing, for Right Now, AoM Article: The 5 Best AoM Podcast Episodes on Finding Meaning and Purpose

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