63. What is the full cost of the energy transition? (Saleem Ali)
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The episode discusses the complexities of the energy transition, focusing on the material and infrastructural costs associated with renewable energy.
This episode does not argue against renewable energy—renewables are essential to decarbonization—but it does ask what the transition looks like when you account for materials, extraction, and infrastructure. The clean energy transition is often framed as a straightforward swap: renewables replace fossil fuels, emissions fall, problem solved. But beneath that story sits a harder set of questions. How material-intensive is a renewables-led grid, really? What happens when you account for the ste...
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Guest: Saleem Ali
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