Brené and Adam Grant on Rewarding Effort With Time

Brené and Adam Grant on Rewarding Effort With Time

October 22, 2025 · 35 min

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Brené Brown and Adam Grant discuss the importance of rewarding effort with time rather than just excellence, emphasizing coaching and decision-making in leadership.

In the final episode of a special “Dare to Lead” series with Adam Grant, Brené and Adam discuss the problem with rewarding all effort as excellence. Instead, leaders should reward effort that is not leading to success or mastery with their time through coaching, mentoring, and sharing their own experiences of transformation and change. They also explore how to approach decisions based on how consequential and reversible they are and highlight the role that leaders play in setting up others for success by making sure their team has what they need. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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