Jerusalem Demsas On Liberalism And The Dems

Jerusalem Demsas On Liberalism And The Dems

May 15, 2026 · 44 min

About this episode

Jerusalem Demsas discusses liberalism and the reform of the Democratic Party with Andrew Sullivan.

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit andrewsullivan.substack.com Jerusalem is a journalist and entrepreneur. She’s a former staff writer at The Atlantic and a former policy writer and podcaster at Vox. Last year she founded The Argument , a liberal magazine on Substack, where she serves as CEO and editor-in-chief. We went at it on liberalism and how to reform the Democrats. For two clips of the episode — on Biden’s biggest mistakes, and how DEI went off the rails — head to our YouTube page . Other topics: born in Ethiopia as an Eritrean Christian; why her father became an atheist then converted back to Christianity; growing up in suburban Maryland and becoming a citizen at age 14; the formative influence of Amartya Sen’s The Argumentative Indian ; being a Christian in a secular-left bubble; the stagnation in England before Thatcher; imposing liberalism on Iraq; torture under Bush; the long Great Recession; the American Rescue Plan and inflation; Biden ceding order on immigration; Greg Abbott exporting migrants to liberal cities; rural and retired voters most against immigration but least affected; cancel culture; the race card on immigration; the…

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