Easier Now, Harder Later: Parenting Plans That Actually Work with Gabrielle Hartley on Divorce & Beyond #422

Easier Now, Harder Later: Parenting Plans That Actually Work with Gabrielle Hartley on Divorce & Beyond #422

May 18, 2026 · 47 min · Episode 461

About this episode

Susan Guthrie and Gabrielle Hartley discuss the complexities of creating effective parenting plans post-divorce and the common pitfalls that lead to co-parenting conflicts.

Do you know what almost no one tells you when you are creating a parenting plan? Some of the biggest co-parenting battles after divorce will not be over the things you think. It may not be the major custody decision or where the children will primarily live. It may be the late pickup, the unanswered text, the forgotten backpack, or the soccer registration deadline no one thought to clarify. That is why Susan Guthrie is joined by Gabrielle Hartley, attorney, mediator, parenting conflict expert, TEDx speaker, bestselling author of Better Apart: The Radically Positive Way to Separate, and creator of Mediator Gabby. Gabrielle has spent decades helping families navigate separation with greater clarity, less conflict, and better outcomes for children. Together, they get practical about why so many parenting plans break down after the divorce is finalized and what it actually takes to build one that holds up in real life. This conversation is for anyone creating a parenting plan, already co-parenting, or supporting someone who is. Because choosing what feels easier right now has a way of creating a much more difficult problem to solve later. Covered in this episode: Why most…

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