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Campbell Brown discusses the trust issues in A.I. self-evaluation and the implications for media outlets.

Campbell Brown, the former CNN veteran and founder of Forum AI, joins Dylan to explain why A.I. companies shouldn’t be trusted to evaluate themselves—and why the industry’s self-grading habit may be its worst blind spot. Then they debate whether media outlets that are hesitant to reckon with A.I. are just accelerating their own obsolescence. See all the ways bp is driving American energy forward at ⁠⁠ bp.com/InvestingInAmerica. ⁠⁠

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