Danger Close | The Fourth Option Podcast: Steve Murphy & Javier Peña

About this episode

Jack Carr interviews DEA agents Steve Murphy and Javier Peña about their experiences in the fight against Pablo Escobar.

Today on DANGER CLOSE: THE FOURTH OPTION, I’m joined by Steve Murphy and Javier Peña — the real DEA agents behind Netflix’s Narcos.Straight from the agents who were there: working undercover in jeans and a polo with a target on their backs, Escobar’s self-built prison, treason charges, and the order that changed everything — “We’re not here to seize dope. We’re here to kill Pablo Escobar.”This is a companion podcast to my new thriller, THE FOURTH OPTION, talking to those on the front lines, analyzing modern warfare, and taking listeners deeper into the themes that inspired the novel.This podcast series is presented by HUXWRX Safety Co., Staccato 2011, and Bravo Company.

People in this episode

Host: Jack Carr

Guests: Steve Murphy, Javier Peña

Topics covered

• DEA agents
• Pablo Escobar
• undercover operations
• modern warfare
• drug trafficking

Keywords

• DEA
• Narcos
• Pablo Escobar
• drug war
• undercover agents

Sponsors

HUXWRX Safety Co., Staccato 2011, Bravo Company

Mentioned in this episode

Books & works: Narcos, THE FOURTH OPTION

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