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Danger Close | The Fourth Option Podcast: Derek Benner
Jun 10, 2026
1h 25m 21s
Danger Close | The Fourth Option Podcast: John Devine
Jun 3, 2026
58m 29s
Danger Close | The Fourth Option Podcast: Ben Owen & Jessica Owen
May 27, 2026
1h 11m 27s
Danger Close | The Fourth Option Podcast: Ed Calderon
May 20, 2026
1h 22m 02s
Danger Close | The Fourth Option Podcast: Steve Murphy & Javier Peña
May 13, 2026
1h 52m 41s
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| 6/10/26 | ![]() Danger Close | The Fourth Option Podcast: Derek Benner | Today on DANGER CLOSE: THE FOURTH OPTION, I’m joined by Derek Benner, CEO of OUR Rescue and a veteran of nearly three decades in federal law enforcement. Derek served with Homeland Security Investigations, helped lead the creation of the DHS Center for Countering Human Trafficking, and now continues that mission through OUR Rescue’s work combating sex trafficking and child exploitation. We get into the evolution of Homeland Security Investigations, the adaptability of modern cartels, drug smuggling, money laundering, human trafficking, child exploitation, and how technology has become a weapon predators use to target children. We also discuss the role of electronic storage detection dogs, survivor care, prevention, and why law enforcement cannot arrest its way out of this crisis. This is a companion podcast to my new thriller, THE FOURTH OPTION, talking to those on the front lines, analyzing modern warfare, and taking listeners deeper into the themes that inspired the novel. This podcast series is presented by HUXWRX Safety Co., Staccato 2011, and Bravo Company. To learn more about OUR Rescue, visit https://ourrescue.org/ THE FOURTH OPTION : https://www.officialjackcarr.com/books/the-fourth-option/ Order on Amazon: https://amzn.to/4sZEdJS | 1h 25m 21s | ||||||
| 6/3/26 | ![]() Danger Close | The Fourth Option Podcast: John Devine | Today on DANGER CLOSE: THE FOURTH OPTION, I’m joined by my former Navy SEAL Teammate John Devine of Devine K9s and the Rescue 22 Foundation. John brings decades of experience working with elite K9s, from the SEAL Teams to personal protection dogs and service dogs for veterans. We discuss the selection and training of SEAL K9s, the bond between handler and dog, how these dogs operate in combat, and what breeds like the Belgian Malinois require of those who take on the responsibility. This is a companion podcast to my new thriller, THE FOURTH OPTION, talking to those on the front lines, analyzing modern warfare, and taking listeners deeper into the themes that inspired the novel. This podcast series is presented by HUXWRX Safety Co., Staccato 2011, and Bravo Company. To learn more about Devine K9s, visit https://www.devinek9s.com/ To learn more about the Rescue 22 Foundation, visit https://www.rescue22foundation.org/ THE FOURTH OPTION : https://www.officialjackcarr.com/books/the-fourth-option/ Order on Amazon: https://amzn.to/4sZEdJS | 58m 29s | ||||||
| 5/27/26 | ![]() Danger Close | The Fourth Option Podcast: Ben Owen & Jessica Owen | Today on DANGER CLOSE: THE FOURTH OPTION, I’m joined by Ben and Jessica Owen, founders of We Fight Monsters, an organization dedicated to confronting trafficking and addiction with a lawful, boots-on-the-ground response. Ben and Jessica share their own battles with addiction, homelessness, and life inside trap houses in South Memphis, and how recovery led to restoration and a calling to go back for others. We get into their mission to Rescue, Recover, and Restore, the reality of addiction as a tool of control, the connection between narcotics and exploitation, their work converting former dope houses into recovery spaces, their experience running safe houses during the Afghanistan evacuation, and why redemption often begins by helping others. This is a companion podcast to my new thriller, THE FOURTH OPTION, talking to those on the front lines, analyzing modern warfare, and taking listeners deeper into the themes that inspired the novel. This podcast series is presented by HUXWRX Safety Co., Staccato 2011, and Bravo Company. HUXWRX Safety Co.: https://huxwrx.com/ Staccato 2011: https://staccato2011.com/ Bravo Company USA: https://bravocompanyusa.com THE FOURTH OPTION : https://www.officialjackcarr.com/books/the-fourth-option/ Order on Amazon: https://amzn.to/4sZEdJS To learn more about We Fight Monsters, visit https://wefightmonsters.org/ | 1h 11m 27s | ||||||
| 5/20/26 | ![]() Danger Close | The Fourth Option Podcast: Ed Calderon | Today on DANGER CLOSE: THE FOURTH OPTION, I’m joined by Ed Calderon, a former Mexican counter-narcotics officer with firsthand experience fighting organized crime on the front lines. We get into the evolution of Mexican cartels from smuggling organizations into paramilitary forces, the rise of CJNG, drones, corruption, tradecraft, operational security, and why the security challenges facing Mexico are inseparable from the future of the United States. This is a companion podcast to my new thriller, THE FOURTH OPTION, talking to those on the front lines, analyzing modern warfare, and taking listeners deeper into the themes that inspired the novel. This podcast series is presented by HUXWRX Safety Co., Staccato 2011, and Bravo Company USA. | 1h 22m 02s | ||||||
| 5/13/26 | ![]() Danger Close | The Fourth Option Podcast: Steve Murphy & Javier Peña | Today on DANGER CLOSE: THE FOURTH OPTION, I’m joined by Steve Murphy and Javier Peña — the real DEA agents behind Netflix’s Narcos.Straight from the agents who were there: working undercover in jeans and a polo with a target on their backs, Escobar’s self-built prison, treason charges, and the order that changed everything — “We’re not here to seize dope. We’re here to kill Pablo Escobar.”This is a companion podcast to my new thriller, THE FOURTH OPTION, talking to those on the front lines, analyzing modern warfare, and taking listeners deeper into the themes that inspired the novel.This podcast series is presented by HUXWRX Safety Co., Staccato 2011, and Bravo Company. | 1h 52m 41s | ||||||
| 5/1/26 | ![]() Danger Close | Dark Wolf Podcast Episode 9: Taylor Kitsch✨ | The Terminal ListDark Wolf+5 | Taylor Kitsch | Prime VideoThe Terminal List: Dark Wolf+1 | — | Taylor KitschBen Edwards+5 | — | 1h 58m 59s | |
| 4/30/26 | ![]() The Fourth Option: Prologue Part 2✨ | audiobooknarration+4 | — | Simon & Schuster AudioTomahawk Creative, Inc.+2 | — | audiobookRay Porter+5 | — | 4m 19s | |
| 4/28/26 | ![]() The Fourth Option: Prologue Part 1✨ | audiobooknarration+4 | Ray Porter | Simon & SchusterTomahawk Creative, Inc.+2 | — | audiobookJack Carr+5 | — | 11m 50s | |
| 4/24/26 | ![]() Danger Close | Dark Wolf Podcast Episode 8: Dar Salim✨ | character developmentmoral ambiguity+3 | Dar Salim | Prime VideoThe Terminal List: Dark Wolf | — | Dark WolfDar Salim+5 | — | 1h 09m 23s | |
| 4/22/26 | ![]() Danger Close | Dark Wolf Podcast Episode 7: Luke Hemsworth✨ | character portrayalfilm production+4 | Luke Hemsworth | The Terminal List: Dark WolfTrue Believer | — | Luke HemsworthJack Carr+8 | — | 1h 10m 49s | |
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| 4/21/26 | ![]() The Fourth Option: Preface✨ | audiobooknarration+4 | Ray Porter | Simon & Schuster AudioTomahawk Creative, Inc.+2 | — | audiobookRay Porter+5 | — | 8m 25s | |
| 4/15/26 | ![]() Danger Close | Dark Wolf Podcast Episode 6: Shiraz Tzarfati✨ | character developmentfilm production+3 | Shiraz Tzarfati | The Terminal List: Dark Wolf | — | Shiraz TzarfatiTal Varon+5 | — | 1h 02m 33s | |
| 4/10/26 | ![]() Danger Close | Dark Wolf Podcast Episode 5: Rona-Lee Shimon✨ | actingcharacter development+4 | Rona-Lee Shimon | The Terminal List: Dark WolfFauda | — | Rona-Lee ShimonEliza+7 | — | 1h 10m 21s | |
| 4/8/26 | ![]() Danger Close | Dark Wolf Podcast Episode 4: Tom Hopper✨ | character developmentfilm production+5 | Tom Hopper | The Terminal List: Dark WolfDark Wolf+1 | — | Raife HastingsTom Hopper+8 | — | 1h 17m 27s | |
| 4/3/26 | ![]() Danger Close | Dark Wolf Podcast Episode 3: Robert Wisdom✨ | actingcharacter development+5 | Robert Wisdom | CIANPR+1 | Washington, D.C. | Robert WisdomJed Haverford+6 | — | 1h 06m 10s | |
| 4/1/26 | ![]() Danger Close | Dark Wolf Podcast Episode 2: Chris Pratt✨ | The Terminal ListDark Wolf+5 | Chris Pratt | The Terminal ListDark Wolf+5 | — | Chris PrattJack Carr+8 | — | 1h 11m 47s | |
| 3/27/26 | ![]() Danger Close - Dark Wolf Podcast Episode 1: Taylor Kitsch, Jared Shaw, and David DiGilio✨ | Dark Wolfproduction process+3 | Taylor KitschJared Shaw+1 | Howlers RidgeThe Terminal List: Dark Wolf | Bozeman, MontanaPrime Video | Dark WolfTaylor Kitsch+5 | — | 1h 23m 09s | |
| 12/31/25 | ![]() THE TIN MEN✨ | thrillermilitary technology+4 | Alex DeMille | Army CIDTHE TIN MEN | Mojave Desert | THE TIN MENNelson DeMille+6 | — | 1h 01m 55s | |
| 12/17/25 | ![]() 2025 Year Review + What’s Ahead in 2026 | In this episode, Jack sits down for a look back at 2025 — the books, conversations, milestones, and behind-the-scenes work that defined the last twelve months. From the premiere of DARK WOLF and the launch of CRY HAVOC, to standout podcast guests, book club moments, this episode pulls back the curtain on a landmark year for the Jack Carr brand. Jack also shares what’s coming in 2026, including: Major updates in the Terminal List universe A new novel in a new series Upcoming Danger Close themes and guests New brand partnerships and projects Ongoing work in TV, film, and publishing What listeners and readers can expect in the months ahead A personal, candid wrap-up — a preview of a massive year to come — and a highlight from this last year’s podcasts. FOLLOW JACK Instagram: @JackCarrUSA X: @JackCarrUSA Facebook: @JackCarr YouTube: @JackCarrUSA SPONSORS CRY HAVOC – A Tom Reece Thriller https://www.officialjackcarr.com/books/cry-havoc/ Bravo Company Manufacturing - https://bravocompanyusa.com/ and on Instagram @BravoCompanyUSA THE SIGs of Jack Carr: Visit https://www.sigsauer.com/ and on Instagram @sigsauerinc Jack Carr Gear: Explore the gear here https://jackcarr.co/gear | 44m 24s | ||||||
| 12/10/25 | ![]() Writing Advice | Over the past year, the Jack Carr Book Club and the Danger Close Podcast brought together bestselling authors and literary legends to share hard-earned lessons from the page. In this special Writing Advice episode, we’ve gathered the most insightful, actionable, and inspiring moments from those interviews. Whether you’re an aspiring writer, a reader fascinated by the craft, or someone looking to better understand the creative trenches, this episode delivers a master class in storytelling. Highlights Include: How the pros develop character, tension, and authenticity Building a daily writing routine (even when life gets chaotic) Lessons on editing, perseverance, doubt, and creative discipline What it takes to write stories that matter A year’s worth of writing wisdom — distilled into one episode. Guests and Referenced Episodes: Dan Brown - THE SECRET OF SECRETS: https://youtu.be/LD03tfIcsaM Dan Brown - THE SECRET OF SECRETS: WEBSITE EXCLUSIVE: https://www.officialjackcarr.com/the-secret-of-secrets/ David Morrell - A Master Class with David Morrell: The Art of the Thriller: https://youtu.be/CGue_lskxoY Mike Rowe - The State of the Union: https://youtu.be/JhdgAI2oAXc David Baldacci - STRANGERS IN TIME: https://youtu.be/MeYBU-o_3oo David McCloskey - Secrets, Spies, and The Persian: Inside the Mind of CIA Veteran David McCloskey: https://youtu.be/TTPKPfsuUXo Alex Berenson - From Baghdad to Bestsellers: A Conversation with Alex Berenson: https://youtu.be/6ofIOD5vu98 Daniel Silva - AN INSIDE JOB: https://youtu.be/8pbqTOGn71g Ryan Pote - Blood and Treasure: https://youtu.be/RtbqCiweB7E FOLLOW JACK Instagram: @JackCarrUSA X: @JackCarrUSA Facebook: @JackCarr YouTube: @JackCarrUSA SPONSORS CRY HAVOC – A Tom Reece Thriller https://www.officialjackcarr.com/books/cry-havoc/ Bravo Company Manufacturing - https://bravocompanyusa.com/ and on Instagram @BravoCompanyUSA THE SIGs of Jack Carr: Visit https://www.sigsauer.com/ and on Instagram @sigsauerinc Jack Carr Gear: Explore the gear here https://jackcarr.co/gear | 1h 15m 22s | ||||||
| 12/3/25 | ![]() The Best of MACV-SOG: Stories From the Warriors Who Lived It | Throughout 2025, Danger Close featured some of the most powerful, emotional, and historically significant conversations in the show’s history — none more impactful than the interviews with the men of MACV-SOG, men who inspired the #1 New York Times bestselling novel, Cry Havoc. Formed during the Vietnam War, the Military Assistance Command, Vietnam – Studies and Observations Group was one of the most clandestine and highly trained units ever assembled. These warriors operated in the shadows, conducted missions that remained classified for decades, and carried the weight of those experiences long after coming home. This special Best Of episode brings together the most memorable insights, stories, and reflections from this year’s interviews with SOG veterans — a tribute to the legacy, sacrifice, and courage of those who stepped forward when their nation needed them most. Featured Moments Include: Firsthand recollections of running recon across the fence Leadership forged in the most dangerous missions of the war The emotional cost of secrecy, sacrifice, and survival Lessons for today’s warriors, citizens, and future generations Referenced Episodes and Videos: Jim Shorten: MACV-SOG Vietnam War Veteran: https://youtu.be/IuTDDAvAHQY Top Secret Combat in Laos: https://youtu.be/SWYKhm_AWOs John Stryker Meyer: MACV-SOG Vietnam War Veteran: https://youtu.be/h3FdEgm-fzU MACV-SOG: The Secret War: https://youtu.be/pCGbykibF4I Part 2: MACV-SOG: The Secret War: https://youtu.be/hhdBsDliUus Surrender Not An Option: https://youtu.be/IJywCS9voxE FOLLOW JACK Instagram: @JackCarrUSA X: @JackCarrUSA Facebook: @JackCarr YouTube: @JackCarrUSA SPONSORS CRY HAVOC – A Tom Reece Thriller https://www.officialjackcarr.com/books/cry-havoc/ Bravo Company Manufacturing - https://bravocompanyusa.com/ and on Instagram @BravoCompanyUSA THE SIGs of Jack Carr: Visit https://www.sigsauer.com/ and on Instagram @sigsauerinc Jack Carr Gear: Explore the gear here https://jackcarr.co/gear | 1h 00m 01s | ||||||
| 11/19/25 | ![]() EXIT STRATEGY | The Jack Carr Book Club November 2025 Selection: EXIT STRATEGY by #1 New York Times bestselling author Lee Child & Andrew Child. Jack Reacher will make three stops today. Not all of them were planned. In EXIT STRATEGY, the blockbuster new Jack Reacher thriller from #1 New York Times bestselling authors Lee Child and Andrew Child, Reacher once again finds himself in the crosshairs of a mystery that only he can unravel. A suspicious brush in a Baltimore coffee shop. A forgotten coat in a store. And a handwritten note tucked into his pocket—a desperate plea for help that sets him on a collision course with danger, deception, and “the best villain yet” (USA Today). Lee Child is the author of twenty-five New York Times bestselling Jack Reacher novels, with sixteen reaching the #1 position, along with the #1 bestselling short story collection No Middle Name. Andrew Child, who also writes as Andrew Grant, is the author of RUN, FALSE POSITIVE, FALSE FRIEND, FALSE WITNESS, INVISIBLE, and TOO CLOSE TO HOME. This month’s conversation explores the evolution of Jack Reacher, the craft behind maintaining one of the world’s most iconic heroes, and how Lee and Andrew continue to push the Reacher universe forward with fresh energy and a deep respect for the character’s legacy. We dig into their collaborative process, the precision behind Reacher’s moral compass, and what readers can expect as the series continues to evolve. FOLLOW LEE Instagram - @jackreacherbooks Facebook - @JackReacherOfficial X - @LeeChildReacher Website - https://www.jackreacher.com/us/ FOLLOW ANDREW Facebook - @andrewgrantauthor X - @andrew_grant Website - https://andrewgrantbooks.com/ FOLLOW JACK Instagram - @JackCarrUSA X - @JackCarrUSA Facebook - @JackCarr YouTube - @JackCarrUSA SPONSORS CRY HAVOC – A Tom Reece Thriller https://www.officialjackcarr.com/books/cry-havoc/ Bravo Company Manufacturing - BCM Stock MOD3: https://bravocompanyusa.com/bcm-stock-mod-3-black/ and on Instagram @BravoCompanyUSA THE SIGs of Jack Carr: Visit https://www.sigsauer.com/ and on Instagram @sigsauerinc Jack Carr Gear: Explore the gear here https://jackcarr.co/gear | 59m 26s | ||||||
| 11/12/25 | ![]() Secrets, Spies, and The Persian: Inside the Mind of CIA Veteran David McCloskey | Today’s guest is David McCloskey — former CIA analyst, bestselling author, and co-host of the hit podcast The Rest is Classified. Before becoming a novelist, David served at the Central Intelligence Agency where he wrote for the President’s Daily Brief, testified before Congressional oversight committees, and briefed senior White House officials, ambassadors, and military leaders. He spent years stationed across the Middle East during the Arab Spring and later worked in the CIA’s Counterterrorism Center focused on the conflicts in Syria and Iraq. David’s acclaimed thrillers — DAMASCUS STATION, MOSCOW X, THE SEVENTH FLOOR, and THE PERSIAN — have established him as one of the most authentic new voices in modern espionage fiction. Damascus Station was a finalist for the 2022 International Thriller Writer’s Award for Best First Novel and is currently in development for television. His latest release, The Persian, takes readers deep into a shadow war in Iran and follows a dentist living in Sweden who builds an international front to conceal a covert operation. In this episode, Jack and David discuss the inspiration behind The Persian, the real-world dynamics of the intelligence community, and the meticulous craft of writing espionage fiction rooted in truth. They talk about the creation of The Rest is Classified — a top-charting podcast exploring untold spy stories, manhunts, and historical intrigue. David also shares insights into the writing process, balancing podcasting with novel deadlines, the surprising bureaucracy of the intelligence world — past and present — and a humorous story of running into Ben Affleck at Langley during research for Argo. His new novel, THE PERSIAN, is available now. FOLLOW DAVID X: @mccloskeybooks Instagram: @mccloskeybooks Facebook: @mccloskeybooks Website: https://www.davidmccloskeybooks.com/ FOLLOW JACK Instagram: @JackCarrUSA X: @JackCarrUSA Facebook: @JackCarr YouTube: @JackCarrUSA SPONSORS CRY HAVOC – A Tom Reece Thriller https://www.officialjackcarr.com/books/cry-havoc/ Bravo Company Manufacturing - https://bravocompanyusa.com/ and on Instagram @BravoCompanyUSA THE SIGs of Jack Carr: Visit https://www.sigsauer.com/ and on Instagram @sigsauerinc Jack Carr Gear: Explore the gear here https://jackcarr.co/gear | 1h 13m 19s | ||||||
| 11/5/25 | ![]() Semper Fi – Battles in Iraq and Beyond | Today’s guest is Billy Birdzell, founder of Horatius Group, an independent investment bank focused on creating exceptional outcomes for founder-led and family-owned businesses, and Horatius Impact, a non-profit dedicated to training and equipping scouts to defend endangered species like rhino and lion from poachers in Africa. Billy began his career as an infantry and special operations officer in the United States Marine Corps. On September 11, 2001, he was in New York City — an event that would forever shape his path. Soon after, he deployed to Iraq, meeting his platoon in combat and leading Marines through the fight to Baghdad. In this conversation, Billy and Jack discuss what it means to lead in the chaos of war, the relentless push to “just keep moving forward,” and the weapons and gear that defined those early battles. They revisit the Battle of Najaf in August 2004 and the historic January 2005 elections in Iraq, reflecting on the cost and meaning of those moments. Billy shares his journey from conventional infantry operations to Marine Special Operations Command (MARSOC), his experiences training for special operations, attending French language school, and deploying to Africa. The two also look back on their long friendship and Jack’s transition from the Teams to becoming an author, before diving into Billy’s post-military mission — building Horatius Group and Horatius Impact, and his ongoing work in Africa protecting wildlife and empowering local defenders on the frontlines of conservation. FOLLOW BILLY LinkedIn: @BillyBirdzell Website: https://www.horatiusgroup.com FOLLOW JACK Instagram: @JackCarrUSA X: @JackCarrUSA Facebook: @JackCarr YouTube: @JackCarrUSA SPONSORS CRY HAVOC – A Tom Reece Thriller https://www.officialjackcarr.com/books/cry-havoc/ Bravo Company Manufacturing - https://bravocompanyusa.com/ and on Instagram @BravoCompanyUSA THE SIGs of Jack Carr: Visit https://www.sigsauer.com/ and on Instagram @sigsauerinc Jack Carr Gear: Explore the gear here https://jackcarr.co/gear | 1h 53m 55s | ||||||
| 10/29/25 | ![]() THE WIDOW | The Jack Carr Book Club October 2025 selection is THE WIDOW by #1 New York Times bestselling author John Grisham. Simon Latch is a small-town lawyer in rural Virginia, barely scraping by while his marriage slowly falls apart. Then Eleanor Barnett—a wealthy widow—walks into his office with a simple request: a new will. But when Eleanor’s story begins to unravel and she winds up in the hospital after a mysterious accident, Simon finds himself accused of a shocking crime—her murder. To clear his name, Simon must uncover the truth about Eleanor Barnett’s fortune and the dark secrets surrounding her life before time runs out. With THE WIDOW, Grisham—one of the great storytellers of our time—delivers his first-ever whodunit: a taut, character-driven mystery layered with deception, tension, and high-stakes survival. John Grisham is the author of more than fifty consecutive #1 bestsellers translated into nearly fifty languages. His recent books include FRAMED, CAMINO GHOSTS, and THE EXCHANGE: AFTER THE FIRM. A two-time winner of the Harper Lee Prize for Legal Fiction and recipient of the Library of Congress Creative Achievement Award for Fiction, Grisham serves on the boards of the Innocence Project and Centurion Ministries, two organizations dedicated to exonerating the wrongfully convicted. He lives on a farm in central Virginia. This conversation explores Grisham’s inspiration for THE WIDOW, the evolution of his storytelling beyond the courtroom, and what continues to drive his passion for justice through fiction. FOLLOW JOHN YouTube - @johngrisham9631 Instagram - @johngrisham Facebook - @johngrisham X - @johngrisham Website - https://jgrisham.com/ FOLLOW JACK Instagram - @JackCarrUSA X - @JackCarrUSA Facebook - @JackCarr YouTube - @JackCarrUSA SPONSORS CRY HAVOC – A Tom Reece Thriller https://www.officialjackcarr.com/books/cry-havoc/ Bravo Company Manufacturing - BCM Stock MOD3: https://bravocompanyusa.com/bcm-stock-mod-3-black/ and on Instagram @BravoCompanyUSA THE SIGs of Jack Carr: Visit https://www.sigsauer.com/ and on Instagram @sigsauerinc Jack Carr Gear: Explore the gear here https://jackcarr.co/gear | 46m 46s | ||||||
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