
Strength in Chaos: Leadership Development for an Unpredictable World With Kevin Black
From The Learning & Development Podcast by David James
June 9, 2026 · 42 min · Season 2 · Episode 86
About this episode
Kevin Black discusses the challenges of leadership in chaotic environments and how L&D can better prepare leaders for real-world complexities.
In this episode, Kevin Black joins David to explore why leadership so often feels chaotic and why most leadership development fails to prepare leaders for that reality. Together, they examine the gap between how leadership is taught and how it’s experienced, unpacking how leaders respond to pressure, uncertainty, and loss of control and why those responses can either escalate or stabilise chaos. Kevin shares insights from his research into leadership under pressure, introducing a more grounded way of understanding what effective leadership looks like when conditions are volatile and ambiguous. The conversation also focuses on the role of Learning & Development. Kevin explains where traditional leadership programmes fall short, what L&D can do differently to prepare leaders for real-world complexity and how embracing chaos as a design constraint - not a flaw - can lead to more credible and impactful leadership development. If you’re responsible for developing leaders and questioning whether current approaches are enough, this episode is for you. Take your L&D to the next level Take advantage of thousands of hours of analysis. Hundreds of conversations with industry innovators and…
People in this episode
Host: David James
Guest: Kevin Black
Topics covered
- leadership development
- chaos in leadership
- L&D strategies
- real-world complexity
- effective leadership
- pressure and uncertainty
Keywords
- leadership
- chaos
- L&D
- development
- pressure
- uncertainty
- effective leadership
- training
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: 360learning
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