China’s Strategy for Trump (w/Kurt Campbell)

China’s Strategy for Trump (w/Kurt Campbell)

May 13, 2026 · 1h 10m

About this episode

The episode discusses China's strategy regarding the U.S. amid Trump's presidency and the geopolitical implications of their summit.

President Trump heads to Beijing for a high-stakes summit with Xi Jinping at a moment of growing instability in the Middle East and rising anxiety across Asia. In this episode, former U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Kurt Campbell joins Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer to preview the summit and discuss: Why China increasingly believes the United States is in decline Xi Jinping’s read of Donald Trump Whether Trump might shift U.S. policy on Taiwan or semiconductor export controls How the Iran war is factoring into China’s strategy What comes next in the U.S.-China competition Follow The Long Game so you never miss an episode. New episodes drop weekly. Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube. Transcript here. Email Jake and Jon at longgame@voxmedia.com. The Long Game is produced by the Vox Media Podcast Network. REFERENCES & SUPPLEMENTAL MATERIALS: “How China hopes to win from the war,” The Economist, April 1, 2026. "The Stakes of Trump vs. Xi," Kurt Campbell, Foreign Affairs, May 2026. “Xi Is Planning for China’s Final Victory Over the U.S.,” The New York Times, Julian Gerwirtz, May 13, 2026. “What a former CIA analyst reveals about a potential China fight,” Max Book Interview…

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