About this episode

Joseph Pearce discusses the transformative nature of marriage through the lens of literature and philosophy.

In this conversation with Joseph Pearce—internationally acclaimed author, Shakespeare scholar, and visiting professor of literature—we're exploring something I don't often discuss on the show: the depth of wisdom found in literature, philosophy, and the contemplative life, and what it teaches us about marriage, suffering, and formation. Joseph doesn't just write about great converts like Chesterton, Tolkien, and C.S. Lewis—he lives the truths they wrote about. After his own conversion from radical politics to Catholicism, he's spent decades unpacking how love, sacrifice, and beauty shape not just stories, but souls. And while his world of poetry and literary references may feel foreign at first, what emerged in our conversation is deeply practical: how we are formed—slowly, drip by drip—by what we choose, what we tolerate, and who we marry. I'll walk you through: ✅ Why marriage is not about two individuals finding happiness—it's about three getting married (husband, wife, and Christ) ✅ The difference between caring about someone and feeling responsible for them (and why we confuse the two) ✅ How pride and feminism have made marriage competitive instead of complementary ✅ Why the…

People in this episode

Host: Dr. Luella Jonk

Guest: Joseph Pearce

Topics covered

• marriage
• literature
• philosophy
• suffering
• formation
• love
• sacrifice

Keywords

• marriage
• transformation
• literature
• suffering
• sacrifice
• philosophy
• love

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