
Want to Be Happier? Try Talking to Strangers.
From The Next Big Idea by Next Big Idea Club
June 4, 2026 · 1h 17m
About this episode
Nicholas Epley discusses the benefits of talking to strangers and insights from his book 'A Little More Social'.
Nicholas Epley is a mind reader. But he doesn’t have ESP or practice hypnosis. He's not telepathic or clairvoyant. Sure, you could ask him to read your fortune, but you'd be better off with a Magic 8 Ball. When we say Nick is a mind reader, what we mean is he studies mind reading at the University of Chicago — studies, as he puts it, "how we make inferences about each other's thoughts and beliefs and attitudes, and mostly how we screw that up." Today, he makes small talk — and big talk — with Rufus about his new book, A Little More Social, which draws on the dozens of studies he's run with thousands of participants to show that talking to strangers, cringe as it may feel, can enliven your days, lengthen your life, and maybe even heal our politics. If you enjoyed this episode, check out our conversations with Charles Duhigg, Leslie John, David Brooks, Marc Schulz, Anna Sale, and John Colapinto. The Next Big Idea is now on YouTube! You can find our episodes here. Follow Rufus on LinkedIn, subscribe to our Substack, or send us an email at podcast@nextbigideaclub.com. The best way to support the show is by becoming a Next Big Idea Club member. Learn more at…
People in this episode
Host: Rufus
Guest: Nicholas Epley
Topics covered
- happiness
- social interaction
- psychology
- communication
- self-improvement
Keywords
- happiness
- talking to strangers
- social psychology
- mind reading
- self-improvement
Sponsors
Fora, Northwest Registered Agent
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: University of Chicago, Next Big Idea Club
Books & works: A Little More Social
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