Kristina Podnar and Camille Stewart Gloucester discuss the complexities of AI governance and the importance of infrastructure in the policy landscape.
In this episode, Kristina Podnar sits down with Camille Stewart Gloucester to unpack what’s durable in today’s AI policy landscape — and what’s just noise. Tune is for why AI governance isn’t about regulation alone, but about infrastructure: decision rights, data access, organizational design, and continuous learning. Camille shares what she’s seeing across industry and government, where organizations are overconfident, and why retrofitting governance gets exponentially harder once AI systems...