Kubernetes and retiring at the top with Kelsey Hightower

About this episode

Kelsey Hightower discusses his unconventional career path in tech, the rise of Kubernetes, and his insights on AI.

Brought to You By: • Antithesis – verify your system’s correctness without human review or traditional integration tests – and avoid bugs or outages. • Buildkite – CI software built to absorb whatever your coding agents throw at the build queue • Sentry – application monitoring software considered “not bad” by millions of developers — Kelsey Hightower went from a self-taught technician installing DSL modems to becoming one of Google’s elite Distinguished Engineers, whom the CEO of Microsoft personally tried to recruit. Hightower’s career achievements are rooted in hard work and self-directed learning, and today he’s one of the most influential voices in modern infrastructure, through his talks, open source work, and writing. In this episode of The Pragmatic Engineer podcast , Kelsey and I cover his unconventional path into tech and the lessons he’s learned during three decades in the industry. We discuss his entrepreneurial years, building a reputation through open source, the rise of containers and Kubernetes, and his time at Google during one of the most consequential periods in cloud computing. He recounts how a job offer from a big tech giant led to the biggest raise of his…

People in this episode

Host: Gergely Orosz

Guest: Kelsey Hightower

Topics covered

• Kubernetes
• career development
• open source
• cloud computing
• AI
• infrastructure

Keywords

• Kubernetes
• cloud computing
• open source
• AI
• career development
• infrastructure

Sponsors

Antithesis, Buildkite, Sentry

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Google, Microsoft

Products: Antithesis, Buildkite, Sentry

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